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I’m always asked to respond to these posts of people trying to speak “authoritatively” on Celtic myth, who clearly have never read a single one of the primary texts.
In all honesty, I get second hand embarrassment. But I’m not here to bully. Celtic myth is confusing.
For those who want to say Lugh is = to Odin: Name a single narrative myth that they share. Not a vague family relation or association.
I’ll show you what I mean.
Who is the lord of the Gaelic “mannerbund” (the Fiana) who receives knowledge from a magic well?
Finn.
Who is the leader of the Wild Hunt?
Gwyn, Welsh linguistic cognate of Finn.
Who loses an eye and transforms into a fish, as Odin also does?
Fintan, divine ancestor of the sovereign god Nuada.
Who fasts under a magical tree to gain the power of prophecy, next to waters that turn all things white, after drinking from a magical cup?
Finn.
Who is considered the storehouse of all knowledge?
Fintan.
Who divides Sky from Earth along with his two brothers, as Odin does with Ymir’s body?
Eber Finn.
Who steals back the wondrous liquid from the giant in the tower and sleeps with his daughter while there?
Finn Mac Kinealy.
Finn. None of these myths belong to Lugh. Lugh does not lose an eye, or turn into a fish, or gain wisdom from a well, or lead the wild hunt or lead the Fiana.
IN FACT LUGAID MAC CON’S FIANA LEADER IS FIONN MAC CUMHAILL.
Almost all of Odin’s myths are reflected in the myths of Finn/Fintan, none in Lugh.
Name me a single narrative, full mythic story, that Odin shares with Lugh/Lugaid.
As long as you remain silent in response to this question your claim stands refuted.
Come back to the subject when you’ve studied more. Until then, stop spreading misinformation to those who won’t know better.
- O’Gravy, The Sun Riders
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We have discussed above that Weden [Óðinn] is the supreme God of the Germanic people in the Eddic sources, and that all the Gods are Gods by virtue of sharing His divine essence. What many people do not know, however, is that this idea is attested in our earliest literary sources, namely Tacitus' Germania. In c. 9:
"Among the gods Mercury is the one they principally worship. They regard it as a religious duty to offer to him, on fixed days, human as well as other sacrificial victims."
There's little doubt about the identity of Mercury being in reality the same God as Weden. This identification of foreign Gods using the lens of Roman religion is called Interpretatio Romana, and we have discussed the Interpretatio methods at length in our previous posts. Nevertheless, we can be sure that Tacitus here uses this method because he tells us about it elsewhere, in c. 43:
"Among the Naharvali [...] they say that their deities, according to the Roman interpretation, are Castor and Pollux: that is the character of their godhead, of which the name is ‘the Alci’."
We get more interesting information about the ancient Germanic understanding of Weden, however, when Tacitus discusses the Suebi, and in particular the Suebian Semnones, who are said to be the most ancient and the noblest of the Suebian tribes. He says, that they performed human sacrifices to a God, who can be identified with Weden based on the fact that earlier Tacitus confirms that it is to Him that the Germanic people give human sacrifices. And he gives the following description:
"This whole superstition is based on the belief that from this wood the people derives its origin and that the god who reigns over all dwells there, the rest of the world being his obedient subjects."
The Latin expression that is used is 'regnator omnium deus', the God who Rules All, and thus, Tacitus couldn't be more clear in confirming that the ancient Germanic view of Weden was that of a Most High God.
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Zeus vs Dyáuṣ Pitṛ́ | Zeus' Tripartite Mithraic Nature
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If Zeus and Dyaus share a name, then why is Dyaus merely the Embodied Sky while Zeus is a different god in the myths, namely the Mitra-type Sovereign?
How did their nearly identical names come to be attached to these two different gods in their respective traditions?
And how is the parallel between Mithra and Zeus established?
Josephus, Arno and Collin join me to discuss.
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Zeus vs Dyáuṣ Pitṛ́ | Zeus' Tripartite Mithraic Nature
If Zeus and Dyaus share a name, then why is Dyaus merely the Embodied Sky while Zeus is a different god in the myths, the Mitra-type Sovereign? How did their nearly identical names come to be attached to these two different gods in their respective traditions?…
If we look at the evidence itself and not at earlier philologists’ hypotheses, it’s clear that there are different rôles in each mythology for: {a} the Sky personified, exemplified by Dyu Pitr̥, Ouranós, Cælus, the upper half of Ymir, and Matholwch, {b} the God of Intellect who separates Sky from Earth, exemplified by Rudra, Krónos, Saturn, Óðinn and Efnisien; {c} the Lawful Sovereign, God of oaths and justice, one of the many thunder-wielders, whose PIE name might have been *Deywós, exemplified by Mitra, Zeús, Jūpiter (especially in his Dīus aspect), Týr and Lleu Llaw Gyffes.
- Jōsēphus Græcus, The Sun Riders
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